I think your freeway chain is a great idea.

How do you hide something in plain site?
I have been trying to deal with this problem too.
I want to put some boxes in some heavily trafficed areas.

I was thinking of the old hollow rock trick
you can get fake rocks from Home depot. that are just fiberglass
shells.
They would be pretty expensive though if you were putting out lots
of boxes.

my other thought is the kind of small in ground box you put sprinklers or
valves in. Especially if you can find one marked sewer.

Matt Sparks
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while we have very few rules, one that I do seem to remember is to not dig into the ground to hide a box. I think it might have come down from Dartmoor, but I'm not sure. Any thoughts?

Lone Wolf

>>> "Matthew Sparks" 07/05 3:18 PM >>>
I think your freeway chain is a great idea.

How do you hide something in plain site?
I have been trying to deal with this problem too.
I want to put some boxes in some heavily trafficed areas.

I was thinking of the old hollow rock trick
you can get fake rocks from Home depot. that are just fiberglass
shells.
They would be pretty expensive though if you were putting out lots
of boxes.

my other thought is the kind of small in ground box you put sprinklers or
valves in. Especially if you can find one marked sewer.

Matt Sparks
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John De Wolf wrote:
>
> while we have very few rules, one that I do seem to remember is to not dig into the ground to hide a box. I think it might have come down from Dartmoor, but I'm not sure. Any thoughts?
>


There was some discussion at one point about "plugging." I believe this
practice of cutting into sod is practiced in Dartmoor to some extent.
In general I try not to disturb the area in which I have planted boxes.

Mitch had some interesting camoflauge techniques for the boxes he
planted in high traffic areas. He eventually pulled or did not replace
when these boxes when they came up missing.

--
Thom Cheney
tcgrafx... among other things

>John De Wolf wrote:
> >
> > while we have very few rules, one that I do seem to remember is to not
>dig into the ground to hide a box.

Hey thanks! I am new at this and appreciate the info.

Some places I was thinking about have stepping stones. would lifting a
stepping stone and putting the box beneath be considered digging?


on another note,
I made my stamp from speedball speedy cut.
It was in my beltpack and it broke in half... bummer.

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We've been tossing around the interstate letterbox idea ourselves
(must be vibes!). It sounds a little weird to admit it, but we've
stopped at the Vince Lombardi rest stop in one of New Jersey's more
scenic areas so many times it's like a family tradition. My eldest
will never forget the site of her first transgender in the ladies'
room there....so now it's official. Next time down the NJTP we're
planting something rubbery at the Vince. We foresee a string from
Maine to Key West down I-95. Now, to get 101 going on the west
coast...

Jay, loves-Eric's-posts-that-liven-up-the-list-in-CT

Jay,

"Plugging" only works well in wet rainy areas where the sod plug and
its plants aon't dry out & die. Regarding the fence line, I assume you
meant a back fence far away from zooming cars? an interstate, hmmm, we
have one up here in Vermont! There are lots of trees in the rest areas,
could a box look like a birds nest?

Regards,
Susan

I am not aware of any 'no digging' rule myself. I think the concept
of a plugged box is just fine and has many precedents in Dartmoor. I
used it for the Whales Tales box.

Tom

> In a message dated 7/5/00 12:20:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> makaalasparks@hotmail.com writes:
>
> <<
> my other thought is the kind of small in ground box you put sprinklers or
> valves in. Especially if you can find one marked sewer. >>
>
> My two cents:
> I picked up two cylinder shaped time capsules at wal-mart this summer. One
> is in the shape of a crayola crayon about 3" diameter, the other is in the
> shape of a pipe with a cap on both ends...about a 1.5" diameter. I had seen
> this one used by another group of letterboxers. I had not been aware of the
> no diggin rule and had intended to remove a "plug" and put the capsules in
> the ground vertically so that the letterboxers would only have to remove the
> lid. I also thought that PVC pipe with capped ends would do just as well.
> I figured out of the way places next to rocks or fences would work very well
> for something like this.
>
> Mohmers
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In a message dated 7/5/00 12:20:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
makaalasparks@hotmail.com writes:

<<
my other thought is the kind of small in ground box you put sprinklers or
valves in. Especially if you can find one marked sewer. >>

My two cents:
I picked up two cylinder shaped time capsules at wal-mart this summer. One
is in the shape of a crayola crayon about 3" diameter, the other is in the
shape of a pipe with a cap on both ends...about a 1.5" diameter. I had seen
this one used by another group of letterboxers. I had not been aware of the
no diggin rule and had intended to remove a "plug" and put the capsules in
the ground vertically so that the letterboxers would only have to remove the
lid. I also thought that PVC pipe with capped ends would do just as well.
I figured out of the way places next to rocks or fences would work very well
for something like this.

Mohmers

> What do you think of a letterbox chain tied to Interstate Highway rest stops?

I personally prefer boxes and clues with more of a Dartmoor feel or a puzzle
to them, or boxes in more remote areas. That is why I prefer Valley Forge
which has as close to a moorland feel as you can get around where I live
(its actually alot of rolling grassland but you can get the feel anyway
if the weather is right ...) or the mystery boxes.

I also think zero chance of accidental discovery is important.

I think if enough boxes with any theme are placed, a series on the site can
be arranged, but right now the webmasters don't have time to do it so
someone else will have to volunteer.

--
randy "the mapsurfer"
http://www.letterboxing.org